Your Legislators: Higher Education (March 28, 2019)

Your Legislators: Higher Education (March 28, 2019)

September 10, 2019 0 By Ronny Jaskolski


ARE GOING TO DO THIS RIGHT FROM
MINNESOTA. MINNESOTA.
>>Barry: VERY GOOD. >>Barry: VERY GOOD.
WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM A VIEWER WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM A VIEWER
IN TRAVERS COUNTY THAT WANTS TO IN TRAVERS COUNTY THAT WANTS TO
TALK ABOUT HIGHER EDUCATION, AND TALK ABOUT HIGHER EDUCATION, AND
THE SPECIFIC QUESTION LEADS IN THE SPECIFIC QUESTION LEADS IN
THAT DIRECTION, AND THE SPECIFIC THAT DIRECTION, AND THE SPECIFIC
QUESTION FROM OUR VIEWER IS TO QUESTION FROM OUR VIEWER IS TO
LET THE VIEWER KNOWS THE LET THE VIEWER KNOWS THE
UNIVERSITY OF MIN IS A LAND UNIVERSITY OF MIN IS A LAND
GRANT COLLEGE SUPPORTED BY GRANT COLLEGE SUPPORTED BY
TAXPAYERS, BUT THIS VIEWER IS TAXPAYERS, BUT THIS VIEWER IS
AWARE THAT IT’S AN ENTITY UNTO AWARE THAT IT’S AN ENTITY UNTO
ITSELF AND WONDERS IF THAT ITSELF AND WONDERS IF THAT
INTERFERES WITH THE ABILITY TO INTERFERES WITH THE ABILITY TO
MANAGE THE UNIVERSITY, AND OF MANAGE THE UNIVERSITY, AND OF
COURSE, JUST SO OUR VIEWER COURSE, JUST SO OUR VIEWER
UNDERSTANDS WITH WHAT IS GOING UNDERSTANDS WITH WHAT IS GOING
ON THERE, THE STATE CONSTITUTION ON THERE, THE STATE CONSTITUTION
SPECIFICALLY PROVIDES THE SPECIFICALLY PROVIDES THE
UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA, TO SOME UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA, TO SOME
EXTENT, SETS THEM APART, AND EXTENT, SETS THEM APART, AND
THERE’S ALWAYS TENSION BETWEEN THERE’S ALWAYS TENSION BETWEEN
HOW THE UNIVERSITY WANTS TO RUN HOW THE UNIVERSITY WANTS TO RUN
THAT LAND GRANT INSTITUTION AND THAT LAND GRANT INSTITUTION AND
WHY THE LEGISLATURE OR THE WHY THE LEGISLATURE OR THE
GOVERNOR MIGHT HAVE TO SAY OR GOVERNOR MIGHT HAVE TO SAY OR
WANT TO SAY ABOUT THAT, AND I WANT TO SAY ABOUT THAT, AND I
DON’T KNOW THAT THE LINES ARE DON’T KNOW THAT THE LINES ARE
NECESSARILY CRYSTAL CLEAR, BUT I NECESSARILY CRYSTAL CLEAR, BUT I
THINK THAT IS AN OPEN ENTREE TO THINK THAT IS AN OPEN ENTREE TO
TALK ABOUT HIGHER EDUCATION AND TALK ABOUT HIGHER EDUCATION AND
WHERE IT MIGHT GO. WHERE IT MIGHT GO.
LET’S GO TO YOU, SENATOR FRANZEN LET’S GO TO YOU, SENATOR FRANZEN
AND WHERE YOU SEE IT MIGHT BE AND WHERE YOU SEE IT MIGHT BE
GOING. GOING.
>>TO THE VIEWER’S QUESTION, >>TO THE VIEWER’S QUESTION,
IT’S ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY. IT’S ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY.
I SERVED ON HIGHER EDUCATION FOR I SERVED ON HIGHER EDUCATION FOR
TWO YEARS, AND YOU KNOW, THE TWO YEARS, AND YOU KNOW, THE
UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA LAND UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA LAND
GRANT IT’S OUR PRIDE AND JOY, GRANT IT’S OUR PRIDE AND JOY,
ALONG WITH MANY OTHER HIGHER ED ALONG WITH MANY OTHER HIGHER ED
ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE HAVE IN ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE HAVE IN
MINNESOTA, BUT TO THE VIEWER’S MINNESOTA, BUT TO THE VIEWER’S
POINT, WHEN THEY ARE IN TROUBLE, POINT, WHEN THEY ARE IN TROUBLE,
WE HAVE OUR DUTY TO HOLD THEM WE HAVE OUR DUTY TO HOLD THEM
ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT THE ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT THE
POLICIES THEY DO, THE REGIONS POLICIES THEY DO, THE REGIONS
THAT ARE SELECTED COME FROM US, THAT ARE SELECTED COME FROM US,
AND THE SENATE ACTUALLY HAS TO AND THE SENATE ACTUALLY HAS TO
VOTE ON THEM AND MOVE THEM VOTE ON THEM AND MOVE THEM
FORWARD, SO THERE IS THAT VERY, FORWARD, SO THERE IS THAT VERY,
VERY CLOSE RELATIONSHIP, AND VERY CLOSE RELATIONSHIP, AND
OBVIOUSLY THEY COME TO US FOR OBVIOUSLY THEY COME TO US FOR
FUNDING, AND WE WANT TO KEEP A FUNDING, AND WE WANT TO KEEP A
PRETTY TIGHTROPE WHEN IT COMES PRETTY TIGHTROPE WHEN IT COMES
TO THE FUNDING BECAUSE IT COMES TO THE FUNDING BECAUSE IT COMES
TO THE STATE TAXPAYERS, AND WE TO THE STATE TAXPAYERS, AND WE
WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE
ACCOUNTABLE FOR THOSE DOLLARS AS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THOSE DOLLARS AS
WELL. WELL.
THE WHOLE NOTION OF DEBT CRISIS THE WHOLE NOTION OF DEBT CRISIS
AND HAVING ALL THESE STUDENT AND HAVING ALL THESE STUDENT
BORROWERS, HAVING SO MUCH DEBT BORROWERS, HAVING SO MUCH DEBT
THEY CAN’T AFFORD AFTER THEY THEY CAN’T AFFORD AFTER THEY
LEAVE THE UNIVERSITY SYSTEM, AND LEAVE THE UNIVERSITY SYSTEM, AND
THEY CAN’T AFFORD A HOUSE, A THEY CAN’T AFFORD A HOUSE, A
FAMILY OR A CAR, THEY ARE FAMILY OR A CAR, THEY ARE
DELAYING THOSE DECISIONS, SO HOW DELAYING THOSE DECISIONS, SO HOW
DO WE HOLD THE UNIVERSITY DO WE HOLD THE UNIVERSITY
ACCOUNTABLE? ACCOUNTABLE?
MAKING SURE THEY NEED TO DO THE MAKING SURE THEY NEED TO DO THE
INVESTMENTS TO ATTRACT TALENT INVESTMENTS TO ATTRACT TALENT
BUT HOLD THEIR END OF THE BUT HOLD THEIR END OF THE
BARGAIN MAKING SURE PEOPLE CAN BARGAIN MAKING SURE PEOPLE CAN
ACTUALLY AFFORD TO GO THERE. ACTUALLY AFFORD TO GO THERE.
THAT’S SOME OF THE THINGS WE ARE THAT’S SOME OF THE THINGS WE ARE
DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW. DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW.
I HAVE A BILL, FOR INSTANCE ON I HAVE A BILL, FOR INSTANCE ON
DEALING WITH THE STUDENT DEALING WITH THE STUDENT
BORROWING DEBT ISSUE WHERE WE BORROWING DEBT ISSUE WHERE WE
CREATE AN ADVOCATE SO THAT ISSUE CREATE AN ADVOCATE SO THAT ISSUE
CAN BE BETTER ADDRESSED AND CAN BE BETTER ADDRESSED AND
STUDENTS WOULD KNOW HOW THAT STUDENTS WOULD KNOW HOW THAT
PROCESS AND HOW THEY CAN FINANCE PROCESS AND HOW THEY CAN FINANCE
RESPONSIBLY THEIR HIGHER ED, AND RESPONSIBLY THEIR HIGHER ED, AND
PEOPLE HAVE VARIOUS OPINIONS. PEOPLE HAVE VARIOUS OPINIONS.
WHETHER THAT’S NEEDED OR NOT, I WHETHER THAT’S NEEDED OR NOT, I
THINK IT IS. THINK IT IS.
I’M ACTUALLY PAYING MY STUDENT I’M ACTUALLY PAYING MY STUDENT
LOANS. LOANS.
I WENT TO LAW SCHOOL AND U OF M I WENT TO LAW SCHOOL AND U OF M
FOR GRADUATE SCHOOL, SO I KNOW FOR GRADUATE SCHOOL, SO I KNOW
HOW COMPLICATED INVESTMENTS YOU HOW COMPLICATED INVESTMENTS YOU
HAVE TO MAKE TO PUT IT TOGETHER HAVE TO MAKE TO PUT IT TOGETHER
TO PAY OFF YOUR LOANS. TO PAY OFF YOUR LOANS.
I THINK HAVING SOME OF THE I THINK HAVING SOME OF THE
STUDENTS, IT COULD ALSO HELP. STUDENTS, IT COULD ALSO HELP.
>>Barry: YOUR THOUGHTS ON >>Barry: YOUR THOUGHTS ON
HIGHER EDUCATION. HIGHER EDUCATION.
>>WITH THE STUDENT LOANS, I >>WITH THE STUDENT LOANS, I
TALKED TO A LOT OF STUDENTS TALKED TO A LOT OF STUDENTS
BECAUSE THAT DEBT IS A PROBLEM. BECAUSE THAT DEBT IS A PROBLEM.
MY CONCERN IS I GRADUATED IN MY CONCERN IS I GRADUATED IN
1990 FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF 1990 FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF
IOWA, SORRY, EVERYONE, BUT THAT IOWA, SORRY, EVERYONE, BUT THAT
SENIOR YEAR MY TUITION FOR THE SENIOR YEAR MY TUITION FOR THE
WHOLE YEAR WAS $2,000 AND IF I WHOLE YEAR WAS $2,000 AND IF I
HAD TAKEN HOUSING AND MEAL PLAN HAD TAKEN HOUSING AND MEAL PLAN
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ANOTHER IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ANOTHER
$2,000. $2,000.
$4,000, AND WHAT I TOLD STUDENTS $4,000, AND WHAT I TOLD STUDENTS
IS IF YOU ADJUST FOR INFLATION IS IF YOU ADJUST FOR INFLATION
THAT DOESN’T ACCOUNT FOR THE THAT DOESN’T ACCOUNT FOR THE
INCREDIBLE COST. INCREDIBLE COST.
ADJUSTING FOR INFLATION IT’S ON ADJUSTING FOR INFLATION IT’S ON
THE HIGH END MAYBE $7,000 A YEAR THE HIGH END MAYBE $7,000 A YEAR
AND THE SAME UNIVERSITIES WE ARE AND THE SAME UNIVERSITIES WE ARE
TALKING INTO THE TEENS AND LOW TALKING INTO THE TEENS AND LOW
20s, AND THAT’S SOMETHING THAT 20s, AND THAT’S SOMETHING THAT
I BELIEVE WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE I BELIEVE WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE
TO KEEP HIGHER EDUCATION IN TO KEEP HIGHER EDUCATION IN
CHECK ON. CHECK ON.
ANOTHER CONCERN OF MINE THAT I ANOTHER CONCERN OF MINE THAT I
REALLY LISTENED TO THE STUDENTS, REALLY LISTENED TO THE STUDENTS,
I WAS SHOCKED BECAUSE I KNOW I WAS SHOCKED BECAUSE I KNOW
THEY HAVE BIG STUDENT LOANS BUT THEY HAVE BIG STUDENT LOANS BUT
THEIR INTEREST RATES ARE AS HIGH THEIR INTEREST RATES ARE AS HIGH
AS 11:00% ON A STUDENT LOAN. AS 11:00% ON A STUDENT LOAN.
THAT’S OUTRAGEOUS AND GOUGING THAT’S OUTRAGEOUS AND GOUGING
AND I’M A PERSON THAT DO NOT AND I’M A PERSON THAT DO NOT
LIKE CONTROLLING A MARKET, BUT LIKE CONTROLLING A MARKET, BUT
THERE’S SOMETHING EGREGIOUS THERE’S SOMETHING EGREGIOUS
ABOUT THAT. ABOUT THAT.
I HEARD A STATISTIC THAT I HEARD A STATISTIC THAT
MILLENNIALS WE LIKE TO PICK ON A MILLENNIALS WE LIKE TO PICK ON A
LOT, THEY WILL NEVER REMOVE LOT, THEY WILL NEVER REMOVE
THEMSELVES FROM CONSUMER DEBT THEMSELVES FROM CONSUMER DEBT
THEIR ENTIRE LIFE AND THE LARGE THEIR ENTIRE LIFE AND THE LARGE
REASON IS THE STUDENT DEBT AND REASON IS THE STUDENT DEBT AND
SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND THAT’S SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND THAT’S
SOMETHING WE NEED TO GET A SOMETHING WE NEED TO GET A
CONTROL OF BUT THERE’S A CONTROL OF BUT THERE’S A
RESPONSIBILITY TO THE COLLEGE, RESPONSIBILITY TO THE COLLEGE,
AND I KNOW IT’S LIKE TO QUICK AND I KNOW IT’S LIKE TO QUICK
SAVE IT. SAVE IT.
IN MY DISTRICT, THE JOBS ARE IN IN MY DISTRICT, THE JOBS ARE IN
TRADE SCHOOLS, CUSTOMIZED TRADE SCHOOLS, CUSTOMIZED
TRAINING AND WE ALSO NEED TO TRAINING AND WE ALSO NEED TO
SHOW OUR YOUNG PEOPLE THERE’S SHOW OUR YOUNG PEOPLE THERE’S
OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE, OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE,
ELECTRICIANS, AND I WILL LET THE ELECTRICIANS, AND I WILL LET THE
SENATOR TALK ABOUT THE SENATOR TALK ABOUT THE
OPPORTUNITIES AS AN ELECTRICIAN, OPPORTUNITIES AS AN ELECTRICIAN,
AND IT’S YEARS OF HARD SCHOOL AND IT’S YEARS OF HARD SCHOOL
AND OTHER YEARS AFTER THAT, BUT AND OTHER YEARS AFTER THAT, BUT
YOU CAN MAKE GOOD MONEY IN SOME YOU CAN MAKE GOOD MONEY IN SOME
OF THAT, I THINK WE NEED TO LET OF THAT, I THINK WE NEED TO LET
OUR YOUNG PEOPLE KNOW THERE’S OUR YOUNG PEOPLE KNOW THERE’S
LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES, AND LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES, AND
CERTAINLY WE NEED ATTORNEYS. CERTAINLY WE NEED ATTORNEYS.
MY SON IS AN ENGINEER. MY SON IS AN ENGINEER.
WE NEED HIM, BUT THERE ARE OTHER WE NEED HIM, BUT THERE ARE OTHER
OPPORTUNITIES THAT DON’T PUT THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT DON’T PUT THE
STUDENTS IN THAT SORT OF DEBT. STUDENTS IN THAT SORT OF DEBT.
>>SENATOR, YOUR THOUGHTS ON >>SENATOR, YOUR THOUGHTS ON
HIGHER EDUCATION. HIGHER EDUCATION.
>>TO THE QUESTION THE >>TO THE QUESTION THE
UNIVERSITY IS A VERY UNIQUE UNIVERSITY IS A VERY UNIQUE
SCHOOL SYSTEM BECAUSE IT’S IN SCHOOL SYSTEM BECAUSE IT’S IN
THE CONSTITUTION AND I AGREE, THE CONSTITUTION AND I AGREE,
ACCOUNTABILITY IS THE NO. 1 ACCOUNTABILITY IS THE NO. 1
THING, AND IT’S OUR CHOICE OF THING, AND IT’S OUR CHOICE OF
THE REGION IS CRITICAL IN THAT THE REGION IS CRITICAL IN THAT
REGARD. REGARD.
HIGHER ED, THOUGH, HIGHER ED, THOUGH,
REPRESENTATIVE MILLER HIT IT REPRESENTATIVE MILLER HIT IT
PERFECT. PERFECT.
THE TRADE SCHOOL, APPRENTICESHIP THE TRADE SCHOOL, APPRENTICESHIP
PROGRAM ARE VERY DEAR TO ME. PROGRAM ARE VERY DEAR TO ME.
THERE ARE SO MANY GREAT THERE ARE SO MANY GREAT
OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE. OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE.
WHEN I GET TO MY SCHOOLS AND I WHEN I GET TO MY SCHOOLS AND I
GET TO TALK TO THE KIDS AND TELL GET TO TALK TO THE KIDS AND TELL
THEM, YOU KNOW WHAT? THEM, YOU KNOW WHAT?
FOR A CAREER TODAY, HIGH SCHOOL FOR A CAREER TODAY, HIGH SCHOOL
ISN’T ENOUGH. ISN’T ENOUGH.
YOU NEED SOME TYPE OF EDUCATION, YOU NEED SOME TYPE OF EDUCATION,
BUT I WANT TO DIRECT, YOU KNOW, BUT I WANT TO DIRECT, YOU KNOW,
THE FOUR-YEAR DEGREES AND OTHER THE FOUR-YEAR DEGREES AND OTHER
COLLEGE PROGRAMS ARE GREAT FOR COLLEGE PROGRAMS ARE GREAT FOR
SOME, BUT MANY, MANY PEOPLE SOME, BUT MANY, MANY PEOPLE
WOULD DO GREAT IN AN WOULD DO GREAT IN AN
APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM OR APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM OR
TWO-YEAR DEGREE PROGRAM. TWO-YEAR DEGREE PROGRAM.
MANUFACTURING, CONSTRUCTION, MANUFACTURING, CONSTRUCTION,
NURSING, ALL OF THESE AREAS ARE NURSING, ALL OF THESE AREAS ARE
JUST SCREAMING FOR HELP AND JUST SCREAMING FOR HELP AND
WORKFORCE, AND I THINK THAT’S WORKFORCE, AND I THINK THAT’S
ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE BEEN
HEARING A LOT. HEARING A LOT.
SO HIGHER ED, I WOULD LIKE TO SO HIGHER ED, I WOULD LIKE TO
SEE US SHOWING A LITTLE BIT MORE SEE US SHOWING A LITTLE BIT MORE
TO SOME OF OUR TRADE SCHOOLS TO SOME OF OUR TRADE SCHOOLS
RIGHT NOW. RIGHT NOW.
THEY HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT THEY HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT
BEHIND IN YEARS PASSED AND ALSO BEHIND IN YEARS PASSED AND ALSO
GOING BACK TO ECONOMIC GOING BACK TO ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT, INSTEAD OF DEVELOPMENT, INSTEAD OF
PROMOTING SO MANY NEW AREAS FOR PROMOTING SO MANY NEW AREAS FOR
JOBS, LET’S SHIFT SOME OF THAT JOBS, LET’S SHIFT SOME OF THAT
FOCUS TO TRAINING AND WHEN WE FOCUS TO TRAINING AND WHEN WE
GET THOSE POSITIONS FILLED, THEN GET THOSE POSITIONS FILLED, THEN
WE CAN START SHIFTING BACK TO WE CAN START SHIFTING BACK TO
CREATING MORE JOBS AGAIN. CREATING MORE JOBS AGAIN.
THEY ALL KIND OF GO TOGETHER. THEY ALL KIND OF GO TOGETHER.
>>REPRESENTATIVE PERSELL, >>REPRESENTATIVE PERSELL,
HIGHER EDUCATION. HIGHER EDUCATION.
>>WE HEARD A LOT FROM MY >>WE HEARD A LOT FROM MY
COLLEAGUE AND ALL THE ABOVE, AND COLLEAGUE AND ALL THE ABOVE, AND
I WILL TAKE IT BACK JUST A I WILL TAKE IT BACK JUST A
LITTLE BIT FURTHER. LITTLE BIT FURTHER.
LET’S GO BACK TO SHOP CLASS, LET’S GO BACK TO SHOP CLASS,
INDUSTRIAL ARTS AS THEY CALL IT INDUSTRIAL ARTS AS THEY CALL IT
IN HIGH SCHOOL. IN HIGH SCHOOL.
WE CALLED IT SHOP CLASS. WE CALLED IT SHOP CLASS.
>>Barry: I’M WITH YOU. >>Barry: I’M WITH YOU.
>>LET’S GET BACK TO THAT WHERE >>LET’S GET BACK TO THAT WHERE
THOSE OPPORTUNITIES ARE THERE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES ARE THERE
FOR YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN, AND ONE FOR YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN, AND ONE
THING WE ARE MOVING UP TO THE THING WE ARE MOVING UP TO THE
UNIVERSITY LEVEL, OUR RECENT UNIVERSITY LEVEL, OUR RECENT
BUDGET FROM THE HOUSE HAD BUDGET FROM THE HOUSE HAD
PROPOSED IS TUITION FREEZE. PROPOSED IS TUITION FREEZE.
I THINK IT’S THE RIGHT THING TO I THINK IT’S THE RIGHT THING TO
DO, AND TO HELP GET A START DO, AND TO HELP GET A START
ANYWAY ON THIS ISSUE OF THE DEBT ANYWAY ON THIS ISSUE OF THE DEBT
THAT’S JUST UNBELIEVABLE, COMING THAT’S JUST UNBELIEVABLE, COMING
OUT OF COLLEGE AND YOU THINK YOU OUT OF COLLEGE AND YOU THINK YOU
BOUGHT A HOUSE OR SOMETHING, AND BOUGHT A HOUSE OR SOMETHING, AND
A LOT OF THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE A LOT OF THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE
WON’T BE ABLE TO BUY A HOUSE. WON’T BE ABLE TO BUY A HOUSE.
THEY WON’T BE ABLE TO DO MUCH THEY WON’T BE ABLE TO DO MUCH
ELSE UNTIL THEY GET OUT AND ELSE UNTIL THEY GET OUT AND
UNDER THAT DEBT AND PROBABLY ALL UNDER THAT DEBT AND PROBABLY ALL
GOT SOMEBODY IN OUR FAMILY THAT GOT SOMEBODY IN OUR FAMILY THAT
IS IN THAT SITUATION. IS IN THAT SITUATION.
SO WE WILL JUST KEEP PUSHING SO WE WILL JUST KEEP PUSHING
AWAY AT IT, BUT WE HAVE GOT SOME AWAY AT IT, BUT WE HAVE GOT SOME
OF THE BEST EDUCATIONAL OF THE BEST EDUCATIONAL
INSTITUTIONS IN THE UNITED INSTITUTIONS IN THE UNITED
STATES, AND WE SHOULD BE PROUD STATES, AND WE SHOULD BE PROUD
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