Your Legislators: Costs of Higher Education (February 21, 2019)

Your Legislators: Costs of Higher Education (February 21, 2019)

September 20, 2019 0 By Ronny Jaskolski


HEALTHCARE.
>>Barry: WE WILL HAVE AN >>Barry: WE WILL HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THAT, I OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THAT, I
SUSPECT. SUSPECT.
MOVE ON. MOVE ON.
A — A QUESTION FROM A VIEWER, A — A QUESTION FROM A VIEWER,
THERE WE GO. THERE WE GO.
WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM A VIEWER WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM A VIEWER
ABOUT HIGHER EDUCATION, WHICH OF ABOUT HIGHER EDUCATION, WHICH OF
COURSE THIS IS ALSO A YEAR, AND COURSE THIS IS ALSO A YEAR, AND
NOT JUST A BUDGET YEAR FOR PREK NOT JUST A BUDGET YEAR FOR PREK
TO HIGH SCHOOL, BUT BUDGET YEAR TO HIGH SCHOOL, BUT BUDGET YEAR
FOR HIGHER EDUCATION AND FOR HIGHER EDUCATION AND
INCLUDES MNSCU AND THE INCLUDES MNSCU AND THE
UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA. UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA.
I WILL LOOK AT YOU I WILL LOOK AT YOU
REPRESENTATIVE TORKELSON TO REPRESENTATIVE TORKELSON TO
START US OFF THERE. START US OFF THERE.
WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE TO SAY WHERE WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE TO SAY WHERE
IT MIGHT GO? IT MIGHT GO?
I HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO I HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO
REVIEW THE GOVERNOR’S PROPOSAL, REVIEW THE GOVERNOR’S PROPOSAL,
AND I HAVE SEEN REACTION FROM AND I HAVE SEEN REACTION FROM
THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNIVERSITY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNIVERSITY
OF MINNESOTA THAT SEEMS TO BE OF MINNESOTA THAT SEEMS TO BE
FAIRLY PLEASED WITH THE FAIRLY PLEASED WITH THE
GOVERNOR’S PROPOSAL. GOVERNOR’S PROPOSAL.
I’M MORE FOCUSED ON THE ASSET I’M MORE FOCUSED ON THE ASSET
SIDE OF HIGHER EDUCATION AS A SIDE OF HIGHER EDUCATION AS A
MEMBER OF THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT MEMBER OF THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT
COMMITTEE WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING COMMITTEE WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING
FOR A LONG TIME AT THE NUMBER OF FOR A LONG TIME AT THE NUMBER OF
BUILDINGS THAT THE STATE ALREADY BUILDINGS THAT THE STATE ALREADY
OWNS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES OWNS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES
TO EDUCATION. TO EDUCATION.
WE SEEM TO HAVE A BIGGER WE SEEM TO HAVE A BIGGER
INVENTORY THAN WE REALLY NEED. INVENTORY THAN WE REALLY NEED.
IT’S MY HOPE WE CAN PHASE OUT IT’S MY HOPE WE CAN PHASE OUT
SOME OF THE BUILDINGS, AND SOME OF THE BUILDINGS, AND
BRICKS AND MORTAR AREN’T AS BRICKS AND MORTAR AREN’T AS
IMPORTANT AS THEY COULD BE WHEN IMPORTANT AS THEY COULD BE WHEN
IT COMES TO EDUCATION. IT COMES TO EDUCATION.
WE CAN DO MUCH OF THIS WORK WE CAN DO MUCH OF THIS WORK
ONLINE, NOT IN ALL CASES. ONLINE, NOT IN ALL CASES.
WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO INVEST IN WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO INVEST IN
OUR TRADE SCHOOLS AND KEEP OUR OUR TRADE SCHOOLS AND KEEP OUR
MOST IMPORTANT BUILDINGS IN GOOD MOST IMPORTANT BUILDINGS IN GOOD
SHAPE. SHAPE.
BUT IT’S MY HOPE THAT WE CAN DO BUT IT’S MY HOPE THAT WE CAN DO
SOME DOWN-SIZING IN THAT TO A SOME DOWN-SIZING IN THAT TO A
PARTICULAR ASPECT. PARTICULAR ASPECT.
AS FAR AS HIGHER EDUCATION IN AS FAR AS HIGHER EDUCATION IN
GENERAL, WE ARE AN EDUCATION GENERAL, WE ARE AN EDUCATION
STATE, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF STATE, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF
GREAT INSTITUTIONS, BOTH PUBLIC GREAT INSTITUTIONS, BOTH PUBLIC
AND PRIVATE. AND PRIVATE.
SO KEEPING THOSE COSTS SO KEEPING THOSE COSTS
REASONABLE IS IMPORTANT, BUT REASONABLE IS IMPORTANT, BUT
EDUCATION IS EXPENSIVE, AND YOU EDUCATION IS EXPENSIVE, AND YOU
HAVE GOT TO PAY FOR IT. HAVE GOT TO PAY FOR IT.
HIGHER ED, WE USUALLY THINK HIGHER ED, WE USUALLY THINK
ABOUT THREE THINGS, AND WE THINK ABOUT THREE THINGS, AND WE THINK
ABOUT THE BRICKS AND MORTAR, THE ABOUT THE BRICKS AND MORTAR, THE
CAPITAL INVESTMENTS, THE CAPITAL INVESTMENTS, THE
BUILDINGS, AND THEIR HEATING, BUILDINGS, AND THEIR HEATING,
ENERGY SYSTEMS, AND THEN WE ENERGY SYSTEMS, AND THEN WE
THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH WE ARE THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH WE ARE
INVESTING IN THE SYSTEMS INVESTING IN THE SYSTEMS
THEMSELVES, AND HOW WELL WE ARE THEMSELVES, AND HOW WELL WE ARE
SUPPORTING THE BUDGETS OF THE SUPPORTING THE BUDGETS OF THE
UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA AND UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA AND
STATE COLLEGE SYSTEM AND THE STATE COLLEGE SYSTEM AND THE
STATE GRANTS, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH STATE GRANTS, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH
IT’S COSTING PEOPLE TO GO TO IT’S COSTING PEOPLE TO GO TO
SCHOOL AND WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE SCHOOL AND WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE
SUPPORTING THAT WITH GRANT SUPPORTING THAT WITH GRANT
DOLLARS AND THAT SORT OF THING, DOLLARS AND THAT SORT OF THING,
AND THE GOVERNOR PROPOSES TO — AND THE GOVERNOR PROPOSES TO —
I THINK I PUT 50 SOME MILLION I THINK I PUT 50 SOME MILLION
BUCKS IN THE STATE COLLEGE BUCKS IN THE STATE COLLEGE
SYSTEM BECAUSE THERE’S 30 SYSTEM BECAUSE THERE’S 30
TECHNICAL AND TRADE COLLEGES TECHNICAL AND TRADE COLLEGES
AROUND THE STATE WITH 7 LARGER AROUND THE STATE WITH 7 LARGER
COLLEGES, AND IT’S A BIG, BIG COLLEGES, AND IT’S A BIG, BIG
SYSTEM, BUT IT’S IN EVERY CORNER SYSTEM, BUT IT’S IN EVERY CORNER
OF THE STATE, VERY IMPORTANT TO OF THE STATE, VERY IMPORTANT TO
SUPPORT. SUPPORT.
30 SOME MILLION DOLLARS BASIC 30 SOME MILLION DOLLARS BASIC
BUDGET, I THINK ALMOST BUDGET, I THINK ALMOST
40 MILLION AND PROPOSING 40 MILLION AND PROPOSING
$150 MILLION IN BONDING TO $150 MILLION IN BONDING TO
SUPPORT THE BUILDINGS AND THINGS SUPPORT THE BUILDINGS AND THINGS
LIKE THAT. LIKE THAT.
>>HEAPER FOR OUR VIEWERS IS >>HEAPER FOR OUR VIEWERS IS
HEATING, AIR CONDITIONING, ALL HEATING, AIR CONDITIONING, ALL
THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
>>AS A PRESERVATION. >>AS A PRESERVATION.
>>AS A PRESERVATION. >>AS A PRESERVATION.
>>AND A BOOST TO THE STATE >>AND A BOOST TO THE STATE
GRANT, NOT JUST A BOOST IN GRANT, NOT JUST A BOOST IN
DOLLARS BUT ALLOWING MORE DOLLARS BUT ALLOWING MORE
INDIVIDUALS TO ACCESS IT AND INDIVIDUALS TO ACCESS IT AND
ALSO EXPANDING WHAT IT’S ALSO EXPANDING WHAT IT’S
AVAILABLE FOR. AVAILABLE FOR.
>>WE DO HAVE TO TAKE VERY >>WE DO HAVE TO TAKE VERY
SERIOUSLY OUR STUDENT DEBT. SERIOUSLY OUR STUDENT DEBT.
THIS IS A BURDEN THAT THIS THIS IS A BURDEN THAT THIS
GENERATION IS FEELING, AND SO I GENERATION IS FEELING, AND SO I
THINK WE NEED TO THINK VERY THINK WE NEED TO THINK VERY
SERIOUSLY ABOUT THIS. SERIOUSLY ABOUT THIS.
IN THE PAST SOME OF THE WAYS IN THE PAST SOME OF THE WAYS
THAT WE ATTEMPTED TO DO THAT THAT WE ATTEMPTED TO DO THAT
HAVE NOT WORKED OUT VERY WELL. HAVE NOT WORKED OUT VERY WELL.
FOR EXAMPLE, MNSCU, EARLY IN THE FOR EXAMPLE, MNSCU, EARLY IN THE
DEVELOPMENT OF THAT SYSTEM, I DEVELOPMENT OF THAT SYSTEM, I
THINK THERE WAS A BELIEF THAT THINK THERE WAS A BELIEF THAT
EVERY COLLEGE STUDENT SHOULD EVERY COLLEGE STUDENT SHOULD
LIVE JUST, I DON’T KNOW, 30 LIVE JUST, I DON’T KNOW, 30
MINUTES OR SOMETHING FROM A MINUTES OR SOMETHING FROM A
COLLEGE CAMPUS, AND THAT WAS IN COLLEGE CAMPUS, AND THAT WAS IN
THE DAY OF A VERY DIFFERENT KIND THE DAY OF A VERY DIFFERENT KIND
OF TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. OF TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM.
BUT NOW THAT SYSTEM THAT BUT NOW THAT SYSTEM THAT
REQUIRES A LOT OF ASSET REQUIRES A LOT OF ASSET
PRESERVATION THAT BUILT IT, PRESERVATION THAT BUILT IT,
THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT AT ONE THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT AT ONE
POINT, WELL, LET’S CLOSE A POINT, WELL, LET’S CLOSE A
CAMPUS, AND THAT WAS A PROPOSAL. CAMPUS, AND THAT WAS A PROPOSAL.
IT DIDN’T HAPPEN BECAUSE THE IT DIDN’T HAPPEN BECAUSE THE
POLITICS OF THAT LOCAL TOWN AND POLITICS OF THAT LOCAL TOWN AND
THAT LEGISLATOR WHO WAS THAT LEGISLATOR WHO WAS
REPRESENTING THAT JUST DEPENDENT REPRESENTING THAT JUST DEPENDENT
LET IT HAPPEN. LET IT HAPPEN.
SO HOW YOU HOLD DOWN COSTS IN A SO HOW YOU HOLD DOWN COSTS IN A
PRACTICAL WAY, ALWAYS CARRY A PRACTICAL WAY, ALWAYS CARRY A
CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CONTROVERSY CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CONTROVERSY
AROUND IT. AROUND IT.
BUT CLEARLY WE DO NEED TO BE BUT CLEARLY WE DO NEED TO BE
CAREFUL ABOUT THE SIZE OF THAT CAREFUL ABOUT THE SIZE OF THAT
SYSTEM. SYSTEM.
BUT I DO IS THINK THAT FOR BUT I DO IS THINK THAT FOR
STUDENTS, WE JUST HAVE TO BE STUDENTS, WE JUST HAVE TO BE
KEENLY AWARE IT IS A DEBT THAT KEENLY AWARE IT IS A DEBT THAT
FALLS HEAVILY ON THEM. FALLS HEAVILY ON THEM.
>>GOOD NEWS IN HIGHER ED. >>GOOD NEWS IN HIGHER ED.
I DON’T REMEMBER THE EXACT I DON’T REMEMBER THE EXACT
NUMBERS BUT THE AMOUNT OF TIME NUMBERS BUT THE AMOUNT OF TIME
IT TAKES TO GET A FOUR-YEAR IT TAKES TO GET A FOUR-YEAR
DEGREE HAD BEEN UP AROUND 6 DEGREE HAD BEEN UP AROUND 6
YEARS, AND IT’S CALMED DOWN YEARS, AND IT’S CALMED DOWN
SIGNIFICANTLY. SIGNIFICANTLY.
SO STUDENTS ARE TAKING THEIR SO STUDENTS ARE TAKING THEIR
EDUCATION MORE SERIOUSLY, WHICH EDUCATION MORE SERIOUSLY, WHICH
ALSO IS A BIG HELP WITH STUDENT ALSO IS A BIG HELP WITH STUDENT
DEBT, IF YOU CAN GET YOUR DEGREE DEBT, IF YOU CAN GET YOUR DEGREE
IN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME, IN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME,
YOU DON’T HAVE TO TAKE OUT SO YOU DON’T HAVE TO TAKE OUT SO
MANY LOANS. MANY LOANS.
>>IT WAS CERTAINLY AN >>IT WAS CERTAINLY AN
EXPECTATION I HAD WITH MY SONS. EXPECTATION I HAD WITH MY SONS.
YOU WILL BE FINISHING IN FOUR YOU WILL BE FINISHING IN FOUR
YEARS, AND MAYBE STUDENTS ARE YEARS, AND MAYBE STUDENTS ARE
RECOGNIZING THAT MORE AND MORE, RECOGNIZING THAT MORE AND MORE,
GETTING IT DONE IN FOUR