Should You Go To Design School: Doing The Math on Education September 16, 2019 100 By Ronny Jaskolski Related posts: Be the start of something. Take them further with Cloud for Education Casually Explained: Guide to College and University You Can Teach Coding With Minecraft: Education Edition First Lady Michelle Obama Speaks on The Power of Education CategoryArticles BlogTagsadvice and art center ash thorp Business business of design cal arts centric chris do debunking Design design better school design education design of business design school fails design thinking doing the math education graphic design how to kyle cooper live mentorship muth otis professional ringling risd scad should you go to design school the the futur the skool things you don't learn in design school Tips tutorial user user centric design you 100 Comments Angie Von Slaughter says: May 10, 2017 at 9:45 pm I loved this and think it's such a refreshing outlook on modern education. Yet, my only question is how would one come up with $100k to pay for mentorships/travel vs. FAFSA/grants for education? That is the only catch I see with this platform. Otherwise it's a wonderful thought! Reply Angel A. Acevedo says: May 15, 2017 at 3:32 pm The lady with the short hair and glasses keeps talking, gives me a vibe that she knows it all. The girl to her right rolling her eyes agrees 😉 http://imgur.com/a/9kKcE Reply Daniel U says: May 23, 2017 at 3:05 am Chris Do, You've become one of my mentors even though I've never met you personally. So much I've learned subscribing to this channel. Thank you for what you do. Reply star moon says: May 26, 2017 at 8:46 am Love the videos here!Can you do a video on What's Communication and How to Communicate? Reply Jamie Medalla says: June 1, 2017 at 12:28 pm this is so true. however, what I did was intern for web developers for free for my first year. guess I was luckier Reply Emaleign says: June 2, 2017 at 4:49 am oh my gosh, I have always believed in reaching out and finding mentors. But, I have never thought about reaching out to my heros and offering to pay for shadowing! I will definitely try this out until I find someone that will agree to let me shadow them. That kind of education would be better than the best art school! Reply Moamen Ali says: June 4, 2017 at 4:37 pm Totally agree with you Chris, besides 'how did philosophy improved' merely all philosophers were coached/mentored by older ones, since there were no schools yet 'with structured curriculum' or education with "one fits all!" mindset. Nevertheless, Athene had the highest sophisticated philosophers whom have had change the whole world… P.S. I've decided to drop out of Tourism university in 2007, guess what I'm working in motion design and learning UX and some codding to support today's tech rush… Reply Natasha Foley says: June 7, 2017 at 11:14 am How do I prepare a portfolio to get into a design school? What are the essentials? Reply monica pulido says: June 9, 2017 at 5:35 pm Whoooo!!!! I never thought about this! I mean totally had this backwards, If you also pay a mentor and you can get first hand experience in addition the person that is teaching you will feel more valuable therefore teach you more. I think also school teach to general this days and going to a specific industry requires specific skills. In resumes I do not see people asking for schools but more so the experience you have working in places. I am going to star saving some money and find you. Reply iz says: June 25, 2017 at 10:19 am Truth! I really loved how you said (especially in a creative job where our creations shows our skills) that why don't we hire someone to shadow…it could just be someone local who we think they have great skills. If we are willing to enter a contract with interest for 100,000 which for most students will end up being a bank why not just go through an apprentice who is doing the job we want to on a daily basis. Reply July Ol says: June 27, 2017 at 4:16 pm I just realised that I listen to your videos actually not so much for informational reasons, but for metrication.Here in Germany the education is generally free (aside of private universities that you can go to if you want some prestige or if your grades aren't good enough for public universities – usually not worth it though). If going or not going is better for making a living as a designer is still a valuable question for me. Your discussion is still very interesting, even is money is not so much of a problem here. Reply Courtney Harmon says: July 11, 2017 at 2:32 am This is an Amazing Lecture, thanks Chris Do, for your wisdom, selflessness, and for making these youtube videos! You're the best! 🙂 Reply Kewal Ajmera says: July 18, 2017 at 4:51 pm hey!! i just loved the video and it changed my mindset completely.I just wanted to ask what do u do after working under the star role models rather than going to a proper art school.How do u approach other big companies without a degree? Reply blucl0ud says: July 21, 2017 at 6:42 am Not questioning what you're being told is how you graduate with 100k debt Reply Hardip Patel says: July 29, 2017 at 6:41 am Its just exhilarating to watch you guide everyone from A to B. Especially I love how you convey your thoughts and it makes me feel if I could just do that. In this particular video you mentioned that you have taken training to learn to speak in a more organised and direct sense. Can you please recommend some course or is there any particular profession/process that teaches to explain like you explain? Reply AVIIIBK says: August 2, 2017 at 10:41 am +The Futur Chris i am in georgia and i want to move in january to go to Art Center. My question is should i go all the way to california to follow my dreams and throw myself in crazy amount of debt? (hate my current lifestyle now and need a change of scenery and better area) Also is there any scholarship programs to make the cost at art center not to expensive? and lastly when did u pay all ur debt from art center if u dont mind me asking. Thanks! Reply eldexxo says: August 6, 2017 at 8:54 pm ofcourse there's the odd feminist in there who ACTUALLY believes that men and women are getting paid differently for the same job. Reply Gaurav Pasi says: August 7, 2017 at 3:22 pm #ChrisDo, do you really read the comments? Just wanted to say that you nailed it. I had never thought of this approach ever and could not have come up with it on my own. I guess, now that I know, I know. 🙂 Thank you! Reply safi thelusma says: August 10, 2017 at 2:42 am Man I love this guy just hope I'll became as sassy and wise as him. Reply Daniel Fadness says: August 23, 2017 at 9:16 pm I start Artcenter this fall for Entertainment Design 🙂 Reply darryl lobo says: August 25, 2017 at 6:52 pm this is amazing ! thank you so much ! Reply Haley says: September 5, 2017 at 12:05 am This is a really cool concept but I am poor and where would I find money to study in such ways…the government would never loan me money to study overseas with someone who isn't an approved educator… So here I am at school… Sad truth Reply Justin Roy says: September 6, 2017 at 4:02 am I personally agree with Chris. If I could take the grant money I received for my schooling and gave it to someone to have as a mentor I feel it would of given me a way better education. I think if teachers were not aloud to give the same projects over and over again then schools would be better. Maybe if all the teachers as a whole in a major or concentration worked together to give students not just the hot skills, but the soft skills as well. If teachers branched out and brought in businesses to give them real life experiences in the classroom I feel that could help the communication issue and the ability to sell yourself better. Students who care show it and students who don't care waste their money and fail. I personally feel like school at times was just a place to get a project and receive an opinion on what you should do to make it better. I learned how to sell myself from working in sales and learned techniques as to how to sell paint to different people with different personalities. But as Chris does breaking things down so a client or customer can understand what you are saying is probably one of the biggest reasons I was able to sell myself as a designer and land a job a month out of college. I personally reached out to other agencies and said hey even if you aren't hiring what could I do better. It got me in touch with many art directors and helped me land even better jobs and get paid more money. Teachers in my opinion need to go back to where they started because most teachers just want to do the same thing and go home. Hopefully that changes for our future. Reply Fuschia Jones says: September 11, 2017 at 11:26 pm ….and love the music! Reply Tonie Renaud says: September 14, 2017 at 12:36 am I keep trying to find the book mentioned in the video: The Apprentice. Does anyone know the author? Reply Peter BC says: September 14, 2017 at 5:32 pm Love this! This is my new favorite channel Reply Zahirul Islam Mamoon says: September 15, 2017 at 9:09 am OMG! This video has a very strong information to understanding of design education. Reply We're Not Very Good At This says: September 20, 2017 at 4:42 am Curiosity, would you allow someone to follow you for 3 months for (during work hours/ work conversations) $10,000 ? Reply Michael Mirchandani says: September 25, 2017 at 2:58 am wow…..i was really impressed by the concept of working for mentors (and paying them), and flipping the idea of getting a real education. this is really ground breaking thinking, thanks for sharing! Reply Hanju Lee says: September 30, 2017 at 6:00 pm I am 20 and I have decided not to go to art school because I have been questioning myself about this subject since I was in high school and you gave me the courage to follow my thoughts and believes! Back in 2012, I was taking a wonderful course about studying from a company called "Study Code". At that time I was in Korea and the education system there was all about competitions. I did not like that. I wanted to change the foundation of Korean education system but in order to do that, I had to play and win the game to get people to listen to me. I finished their course and follow their instruction to go to the top university in Korea. The CEO of Study code made their own unique system. They made their own textbooks and found the best teachers to record the best lecture videos for their students. They also hire the top 3 Korean universities' students as the coaches for their customers (high school students). He also had a podcast. I really enjoyed listening to it every time I got too frustrated from studying. In his podcast, he said almost the same thing that you said in this video.How the schools need to change. Let students to watch the best lecture video and teacher should coach them. So I just want to let you know that the new school system does work! I have already experienced it and it was awesome! Keep up the good work! Your youtube videos and podcasts have inspired me a lot and really opened my eyes. I really appreciate them. Thank you so much, Chris! Reply Winter gaming says: October 12, 2017 at 6:36 pm Thanks! Hoping to use this for a debate topic about how the US should reform higher education. Reply Serene says: October 27, 2017 at 2:18 am Has anyone done this? What are the results? Reply ginner zapata says: November 18, 2017 at 5:09 am Why hadnt i seen this before? Reply Jessica 1031 says: November 18, 2017 at 11:12 pm Futur – Can I get your advice on attending a campus-based program versus an online one? Reply HSINWEN CHANG says: November 23, 2017 at 9:08 am if I saw ur video when I was studying at CSM… I probably will quit the school and come to you and pay you to learn…. Reply ewa fadrowska says: November 23, 2017 at 9:13 pm Hi Chris , I'm so happy I came across you and your project. What you are saying resonates with me so much . The way you dig deep into understanding is amazing ! You are my huge inspiration in so many ways. Great stuff you're guys doing and it's also fun to watch you 👌🏻✨ Reply Dave Larson says: November 27, 2017 at 6:26 pm Awesome stuff, I"m a parent now , and starting to think about college for the kids. Love your ideas here. Reply Regan Weinrich says: November 28, 2017 at 11:23 pm The idea of paying mentors to teach me is the same concept as college to me. My professors have all been designers for a very long time, have all been in different fields and I am paying to have them teach and mentor me. I get the added benefit of being surrounded by designers my age who can view my art and critique it based on our generational similarities. My program has cut down to 30 designers out of 150 applicants over the past 3 years, and the teachers treat our classroom as if we are already working in a design studio with 15 other designers. I wish everyone had this great of an experience from their education but I understand many are taught by professors who half-ass everything and don't inspire their students to go above and beyond the classroom standards. Reply photo camera says: December 19, 2017 at 9:39 am Competition, oneupsmanship! Reply Amnon Sivan says: December 20, 2017 at 1:21 am really dig the outro music, anybody know what that is ? Reply Ayesha Amin says: December 28, 2017 at 7:30 pm I have learned so much from this channel. You’re truly an inspiration to me, Chris. I would love to meet you if I ever come to the US. 🙈 Reply Dee Palin says: January 3, 2018 at 4:22 am ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ Reply ThePigeonmilk says: January 10, 2018 at 6:42 am I graduated with a large amount of school loan debt from an graphic design college. After 2 degrees Im still not working in the industry a year after graduating. I regret it completely. Reply Chellur says: January 17, 2018 at 11:43 pm I fucking love this guy mmmm he needs a medal Reply Sholom Brummel says: January 28, 2018 at 7:56 pm Your Awesome!!!Iv'e never heard such a concept.I'm not going to design school. Reply Mrwanwan2011 says: January 29, 2018 at 7:40 pm Fascinating talk, Chris! In my country you can get free higher education if you were a half-decent school student, so I wouldn’t be as quick to ditch this option. I believe it’s a great option to go to a university/college, get quite an all-round education, while at the same time apply these tips to areas you have more particular interest in. You won’t learn all you need from one institution anyway, that’s why it’s useful to start looking for knowledge yourself. Thanks for this talk! Reply Fraktur Obsession says: January 31, 2018 at 6:36 pm I wish I could join one of these schools but they are very expensive. Here in Egypt the average salary is equal to 280$ and to join GUC or any other good college you need to pay 5000$ per semester which is impossible for lots of people and you can not be sure will you be able to cover those spends or not, coz they will tell yoy to design a logo, business cards and fliers and expect to pay you 200$ max 😢 anyway thanks alot for your videos they keep me motivated 💓 Reply Tomas Loktionoff says: January 31, 2018 at 9:53 pm BOOOOOM!!!!!!! Huuuuuge mic drop. I feel im getting back my spirit. I am stuck in restaurant world, but my whole teenage and 20s i was in visuals. Still and motion, more motion, that included still too. I am so so so grateful for your videos. I am proud to announce that thanks to you Chris, i am ready to do something as scary as skydiving – change my life forever – turn career 180 degree. Thank you times million Chris. Much love from Finland<3 Reply BE UNLIMITED says: February 2, 2018 at 9:06 pm I've been binging your videos since 1 AM. I need rehab because I can't stop consuming information. Reply Virginia Aguilera says: February 7, 2018 at 4:26 pm I think the most important thing you get by going to design school is the process of self devoloping. Get to know your self, who you are, how much passion do you feel about desing and if it is worth enough to make for living. Reply Ng Siang Joo says: February 11, 2018 at 11:37 am I'm a 24 year old industrial designer from Singapore who has never went to college (I was rejected twice from my local university) and I worked for a few years in a small design studio before coming to London for an unpaid internship for 6 months. It was the best decision that I've ever made. Reply Aditi Haldankar says: March 4, 2018 at 6:43 pm I like the fact that this topic had been discussed profoundly by you guys. I like your shirt Chris. Reply Bala Murugan says: March 11, 2018 at 12:07 pm Watching this after 1yr and half also these things are new to me… In INDIA design is just growing… Hav a lot to learn..!!! Thank you The Futur team… Reply Marl Piece says: March 16, 2018 at 8:45 am I do agree what the women said. now a days a lot of agency or company wants their designer to be best at everything. this was very tough for me when i was starting out. there was this company i remmebred applying back then. They want UX/UI designer and at the same time a front end developer. This was understanble atleast, but when i went for the interview they also said that I should also hve experience in .net php and server base language. that was very stupid since they are looking for a fresh grad. They expect fresh grad students to be ninjas in all fields apparently. Neverthless, I went straight freelancing and earned more that those agency are offering. Reply Dustoe McDust says: March 28, 2018 at 7:22 am I don't have 32 minutes because I'm late for a lecture at my design school. Can someone just tell me if the answer is yes or no? Reply Monica Lang says: March 30, 2018 at 11:26 pm Mind blown. Reply RobynHood Living says: April 1, 2018 at 3:19 pm I kinda followed this model a month ago. I want to be Architect and Interior Designer then I began to consciously buy more books, make vision boards prepare my self as an architect by dressing the part studying from other Architects on YouTube. Two months ago I seen a Architecture firm in my mother’s neighborhood that i hadn’t noticed. I got excited and I look up their website, read everything about the architects and owner that work their. The next week I knocked on the door and pretty much told them I’m an inspiring architect and I plan on going to school but am in need of advice. They gave me some advise on school. Then I just all the way in and asked can I work for free even if that means getting coffee! They said the did have the money to pay me even though I asked to work for free. We had some laughs and they said they think about as I gave them my contact. Two weeks past no calls or email from them then I decide to get the courage to email them expressing the assets that I can bring to their firm with customer service, great eye for design etc. that was Saturday. Monday they called me asked did I get their email of them accepting my offer! So a month later, I have my own desk and IMac in his beautiful office and I’ve already learned so much. I’m ordering samples, tile, wall paper (my choices) I’m learning excel. Now here this, they asked to hire me full-time and they feel I can do the local interior jobs for clients because I have a great eye and they see that through my clothes etc. So here what’s I’m dealing with. They don’t want to invest in me and I run off to college and leave them hanging. Understandable. But becoming an Architect means years of school, interning and big tests. School or no school?! Reply Adam Yuen says: April 2, 2018 at 6:09 pm This was great. I learn so much each time I click on one of your videos. I cant sufficiently express how grateful I am in words. thank you. Reply Christopher Armstrong says: April 3, 2018 at 9:46 pm Years ago I made the decision to leave my Art Center degree program half-way through, simply because I couldn't afford it. Unlike many of the more affluent students who that school attracts, I originally came from a working-class family of limited means, from a small town in Texas. The final straw for me personally came after I had taken a job working for the school in the Financial Aid department, doing the paperwork filing for all new / current students, including Alumni. I won't share the numbers here, but what I found is that the school was extremely biased to give scholarship aid – all other students were taking out massive loan after loan. I ultimately was forced to find alternatives due to the exorbitant costs, so I enrolled in a Night School class at their south campus at around $1,300, which was tailored to entry-level students and working professionals. While I was there, I came across a sales flyer for a couple of non-accredited workshops (Red Engine, Concept Design Academy (CDA)) nearby, which were being taught by working professionals who taught on the side as a form or extra income. I actually found so much more value in the $275 class vs. the $1,300 class, that I ended up leaving the latter one in order to dedicate 100% focus on the class where I felt I was getting more value. Because I was paying out of my pocket rather than taking a loan or trust fund to finance my education I to ultimately ask what is the ROI? Are there a bunch of "filler" type of classes here that aren't necessary to my personal career path, that I can prevent purchasing altogther? In received a much better education outside of accredited education, by the mentors who later became friends (David Le, and John Park, who now runs a school called Brainstorm in LA). By doing this I saved $80k+ of student loan debt burden I would have had to take on, and am now living debt-free. There have been many arguments on this subject – but I do feel the classroom setting vs. online is ideal for most people, since there is a set schedule, deadlines, and team environment, which parallel to the actual office environment. Chris has brought this up in one of his talks, but this lack of debt and overhead gives me tons of leverage when negotiating new project bids and when evaluating good or not good fits when I decide to go in-house. Since I have worked for 30+ clients and have gained experience in people skills, sales, only by doing and working out in the real world. Books or seminars can fill the gap for what can't be learned on the job. Your advice here Chris, is sound – There's no perfect "way" to education. It's about time people started to question the real value of what they are paying for. Think in business terms: in ROI, because your future employers for damn sure will be thinking exactly that when hey hire you – and for every new idea, design, program, category, product, or initiative they undertake while working with you after that. And in reality, the learning never stops. Even professionals and executives of all industries attend workshops and seminars to learn more in their trades post-graduate. Anyway, this is a long post and It's taken me a ton of courage to come out with this information, but I was moved by your talk. In the end experience and having skills that people are willing to pay for are most important of all – not the degree. Thank you Chris for having this conversation, and opening people's eyes to alternative forms of getting what they want. Reply 刘觅林 says: April 4, 2018 at 12:18 am 我想问是谁给视频做的中文字幕，简直是。。天使，我要给你打钱！！！ Reply bluenapoleon says: April 19, 2018 at 1:03 pm totally enjoyed your Reply Kavi Sivyer says: April 25, 2018 at 2:29 pm @chrisdo have you ever taken Sam Ovens course? Reply Adam Eastburn says: May 30, 2018 at 8:04 pm is there a part 2 to this? Reply MoGraph Mentor says: June 9, 2018 at 3:12 pm This man is speaking the truth. Reply Shehan Michael Faiz says: July 9, 2018 at 10:58 am Chris is brilliant!!!! Reply ooTheRandomDudeoo says: July 11, 2018 at 5:45 am The last 2 minutes exactly decribe the system at my design school. My teachers would record a lesson/tutorial and post it up online for the class to watch. We would then go to school with questions/doubts and the teachers would be coaches instead and cater to each student regarding their work. There is no such thing as lectures in my school. It really saves time and gives us more creative freedom! Reply Johannis Kraut says: July 25, 2018 at 4:52 pm This video is amazing. Thank you very much! Reply Carlos Vigil says: August 3, 2018 at 2:56 pm Enlightening, thank you! Reply Navy Sisomphou says: August 6, 2018 at 4:34 pm I'm gonna make a bold claim and say that private design schools actually do TEACH leadership (in critiques, you're basically art directing your peers), communication (end of the semester reviews force us to talk about our work in front of a panel of educators), and management (team projects and time-management on your thesis). The real issue is that a lot of us suck at those things while we're in school and therefore, we say to ourselves we didn't LEARN those skills. Reply Alina Tuladhar says: September 20, 2018 at 5:53 am My design Buddha 😀 Reply Alina Tuladhar says: September 20, 2018 at 6:06 am how do I reach you Mr. Do? Reply Rodrigo Porras says: October 13, 2018 at 5:16 am it;s 2 am i was so close to sleep but this lesson had me up the entire video! Great episode! Thank you so much!! <3 Reply Lakin Adkins says: November 2, 2018 at 3:26 am I have to say discovering Chris Do and TheFutur Team has changed the way I see and think of design. After watching a 30 minute youtube video of yours I was instantly hooked and this went on for about 7 more videos that day. I seriously didn’t move. I am incredibly inspired by your wisdom, experience, creative thinking and flat out honesty in the field. Why pursue a degree at a design school when I can learn from someone like you who has already taught me so much? Another great video. I appreciate you Chris Do and all that you do. Thank you! Reply picosdrivethru says: November 11, 2018 at 5:13 am Everything is quantifiable. 🙂 Reply Abdullah Naim says: November 13, 2018 at 6:43 pm OH MY LORD I FEEL LIKE I JUST GOT FREE BARS OF GOLD! Reply rahul sinha says: November 18, 2018 at 5:54 pm You can not go to Google with out masters in design Reply naerial says: November 21, 2018 at 10:37 pm What about the fact that there's a defined curriculum for schools? You know what you're getting out of it from the money you invest, while with the superstar mentor, you don't know how much of the process and how many business discussions they'll let you see. A teacher is paid to answer your questions and many of them don't even do that. Your superstar mentor has even less obligation. Reply BBallMOU says: December 15, 2018 at 6:39 pm The mentor stuff that he mentiens is bullshit!! Reply Michael Wardrip says: December 20, 2018 at 7:48 pm less than 9 minutes… that's how long it took a woman to throw the gender pay gap into it… doesn't exist people. Stop beating that drum. Women are starting to make MORE money than men. Reply Touhidul Islam Jahin says: January 23, 2019 at 8:04 am I can’t find the website: theSkoolRocks.com Reply Le Seynt says: February 12, 2019 at 1:05 am My new number one channel!!!!! Thank you 😊 Reply Tahir Anwar says: February 20, 2019 at 9:03 am Great video Reply Pala Lor says: February 21, 2019 at 11:36 pm This is rich information. Ive rewatched this 3 times. Reply Bikiron Bora says: February 27, 2019 at 6:23 am so nice to mathew here!! Reply Sae Cha says: March 4, 2019 at 1:05 am I can see how a design firm would not care about one's education and would be more focused on one's specialty and portfolio. My concern is with non-design companies. For example, if Delta Airlines wanted to hire a graphic designer, I would think they would want to hire someone who has a BA in GD, unless they are looking for a specialty designer. Reply Catherine Wang says: April 3, 2019 at 9:52 pm The proposal of videoing super figures and then distributing those videos eerily resembles the school system in Russian author Zamyatin's "We", an incredibly famous Russian dystopian novel published in 1924. The videos were played for the whole class, and there were supervisors who answered the students' questions. However, that dystopian society also denounced creativity and nonconformist thinking (basically an extreme form of socialism). It's pretty interesting that you are using this video teaching example as a way to further creativity and independence within people. Reply Rex Galilae says: April 8, 2019 at 7:41 pm One thing I've noticed and like about this guy is how he tunnel visions a point from multiple directions to break it down piecewise. You pay 100k for a portfolio? for speaking skills? for working with your heroes? I'll show you how much you had to pay if you just paid for the portfolio. Then, for just the speaking skills. Then again, just for getting to work with a titan in the industry. Such a way of looking at things isn't always accurate but it really helps if you're focused on one goal which you hope to achieve with your education Reply AnifleX says: April 9, 2019 at 2:53 am I am 17 and I don't like my school and education system.A small syllabusSo many bordersMeaningless grade which says I had this amount of information in this limited time And that's why I don't want to be in a college Reply ocubex says: April 20, 2019 at 5:01 pm Wow, one of the best videos on YouTube on education for creatives. Reply Common Sense Made Simple says: April 24, 2019 at 4:47 am Mind blowing… Luckily I havnt paid 100k in school… but I understand your concept… Wow… really makes me think… Reply Raidencody says: May 6, 2019 at 10:42 am Your videos kinda became scary. (in a good way) I lost my last designer job because my boss and I had different opinions and goals. Don't wanna dive into that to much. Anyway I was looking for another design job for 1 or 2 months now, but I couldn't find anything. Nobody wanted me, so I thought about going to university and study design. It's crazy that you put out a video like this, where I question my decision again. 😀 Reply Andalee Hyatt says: June 10, 2019 at 4:27 pm I love this video. It was really enlightening for me and pertaining to my personal experiences. I attended the Art Institute of Orange County and went deeply into debt for that decision. While I was there I was told I wasn't a creative. However, at another institution they valued and encouraged my design skills. I've always been a creative person, but I have always been a writer as well. I've struggled to find a career that fit my skills. Any advice for someone like me? It sounds like you are highlighting what took me 10 years to learn. I started in design and ended up doing my MA degree in English instead. I wish you would create a video for someone like me who is trying to find a space where I can use both of my skills. I've been leaning towards illustration and children's books, or just going straight for entrepreneurship. Sometimes it feels like I'm just following the wind. I'd love to get your advice. Thanks! Reply DJ TONE FRESH says: June 18, 2019 at 7:42 am chris do has decoded the educational system as a whole. unfortunately most of us don't have that 10g's to get started. great fuckin idea though. Reply LazySaiyan says: June 25, 2019 at 7:19 pm I wish I would have found this channel before I had gone back to school for a master's Reply jinglan wang says: June 27, 2019 at 12:29 pm OMG！ I feel so sad after seeing this video, because i just got an offer form a design school in uk, (which took me 1 year to apply for) and it will cost me 60000 dollars. so I will pay 60000 for a master degree to get a good job.?!?!! I'm Just Now Realizing How Stupid I am. Reply Amberamberamber says: June 27, 2019 at 3:41 pm If you like a design studio and want to get to learn from them (paying $10,000 to shadow them), how do you decide who to reach out to? Client director, creative director, strategy director, etc? Reply Div Rodricks says: July 1, 2019 at 3:07 pm Coming across this video has honestly been the best thing that has happened to me in months. I'm so happy to find people who share similar views like I do. I live in India and here not going to college equals wasting your years. I've never liked college, I did enjoy the discussions and learning methods to an extent but it overall put me off because the whole system was marks based. You needed good marks to graduate, to get into college, to get through an entrance, basically you were valued based on your marks and not by your efforts and this whole mark system was really flawed to me. And so I chose not to go to college and do something on my own, that is self learn. Try and build my own skills, find alternate ways to learn. But again living in an indian society, this wasn't easy. I couldn't afford an art college and ever since I felt on and off with my decisions, feeling like I was missing out on mentorship, friendships, whatever you wrote down in that column, exactly that. I felt like a misfit in a country full of graduates. But I stuck to my plans because I knew I wanted people who don't care about a degree and look at my work and decide whether they want to hire me or not. And art is my passion, I didn't get the logic of paying someone 10 lakhs to teach me something that's natural in me. Something I can practice and get better at. This video has really given me that push to look beyond curriculum and education systems, and find my own ways to learn. So thank you so much for putting this material out here for people like me to relate to and know that we're not alone. Reply AVIAN says: July 6, 2019 at 4:16 am Takeaways: 1:16 Cost vs ValueValue = What you're getting out of it. Cost = Expense. 9:05 Chris doesn't care what your degree is. With the way that formal education is going, eventually no one will. 11:12 Gray matter in the brain holds onto facts. White matter is good at connecting things together. Creative people may have more white matter. Although they are able to connect things together, they aren't able to articulate themselves. This is why breakdowns like this are important, so you can demistify amibigious feelings about something and concretely look at it objectively. 15:03 Going to school for a unique portfolio is not a good reason. That's not the result you'll get from a cookie-cutter curriculum. 16:35 Take the time to do the math on the final product of your education. Is what your making THAT good? 18:19 There are levels to these benefits. Are you getting the level of benefit from the school that you think you are? 22:28 Rethink education dogma. There are many ways to skin this cat, make your path interesting, especially when it makes more sense: Call your design idol, pay them instead to learn what you're paying at school to shadow them. Take an entry-level job at the company doing what you want to learn. 25:37 Tried and true. There are plenty of people who hustled to build themselves. Chris has been friends with them and has hired them. 28:40 If it's important to you, grow a spine and be persistent in your pursuit. 30:57 Chris reiterates his point: The future is different. An example of this is Masterclass.com. TLDR; If you really want it, you have all the resources to get it at your disposal, what you need is hustle, not school. Whether you think you can or you can't, you're right. Thank you Chris. Reply P. S. says: August 19, 2019 at 2:12 pm 16:50 yes 1000 $ per second sounds absurd, but as u sayed in other videos u should not get payed for time!U should get payd for that what it is at the end and what the company can earn with that …Idont understand that its like u say in every video something else or im wrong?I mean i write graffiti for 15 years now and i make a unique design in a few hours ,soo when i sell that design to nike they should pay my 15 years of know how and not the 8 hours that i spend in this design bcs a person that never did graffiti lettering spend 8 hours in a graffiti design there comes nothing good out of it .My design should get even more credit bcs u cant learn that in school u just can learn it by yourself ( graffiti lettering ) soooooo idk…. Reply Paula Nobleza says: August 24, 2019 at 4:19 pm I'd much rather invest in your Designer's Bundle. PS. I hope you give out discounts soon. 🙂 Reply Leave a Reply Cancel reply Your email address will not be published. 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