Interview with the grievance studies hoaxers August 31, 2019 100 By Ronny Jaskolski Related posts: 2017/04/10: Six Minutes on the True Purpose of University Education Rush Limbaugh Hates Educated Women A Women’s College What Is Hate Speech? We Asked College Students CategoryArticles BlogTagsalan sokal and feminism free speech gender studies grievance studies Helen Pluckrose identity politics James Lindsday Jordan B Peterson jordan peterson Jung left wing right wing satire sjw social justice warrior that the womens studies 100 Comments ybnkloading says: March 24, 2019 at 5:06 am dude you gotta get a mic Reply Andrzej says: March 25, 2019 at 12:27 am You guys did a great job exposing the absurdity of what is happening! I hope you will pull through. I keep sharing your videos. Greetings from Krakow in Poland. Reply Hellofellowkids says: March 26, 2019 at 3:17 am I'm a big fan of these individuals. Thanks for the interview! Reply MadScientistGamerr says: March 28, 2019 at 1:33 am God is a deadbeat dad Reply Know Thanks says: March 29, 2019 at 7:54 am HOLOHOAXERS Reply Greedst says: March 30, 2019 at 6:08 pm Mr Peterson are you willing to admit yet bill C16 was not what you made everyone believe it was? its been 5 years now since it passed and none of the bad things you scare mongered people about have happened? People you've been fooled… Reply 81dismal says: March 30, 2019 at 10:34 pm It's essential a reversal of the power dynamic the post modernists claim to be victims of. Reply horse stomper says: March 31, 2019 at 4:46 am Great info Reply Hugh Millar says: April 1, 2019 at 9:53 am Think the quote about believing in anything was GK Chesterton? Good luck, Jordan, strength to your elbow! Reply deckard2001 says: April 5, 2019 at 12:19 pm On JRE, Lindsay said he left academia because he "saw the writing on the wall". Those were his precise words. So whats true now, Mr. Lapsed Mathematician Reply TagSpamCop says: April 6, 2019 at 3:45 pm It's a "hoax" in the same way a drug sting is a "hoax". Reply Jason Riot says: April 10, 2019 at 2:56 am This guy is amazing, the A/V system betrays his amazingosity. Reply Harold Saive says: April 14, 2019 at 7:50 am "Social revenge" implies self-destruction as the legacy power structure fragments. Reply Harold Saive says: April 14, 2019 at 7:59 am Violation of Facebook "community standards" provides ex-communication to those who violate the scripture of political correctness. Reply Harold Saive says: April 14, 2019 at 8:29 am Good point…Bad ideas are subsidized by well-funded political activists Reply Daniel Browning says: April 14, 2019 at 12:01 pm “If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything.” —Alexander Hamilton. Reply L C says: April 20, 2019 at 6:57 pm Heroes, every one of them. 14:50 – 16:40 is where you can listen to James' thought process as he so eloquently – without a spare word! – explains his analogy of post-modernism and religion. Right on. Reply L C says: April 20, 2019 at 7:01 pm Helen @ 18:00–18:40, the woman is such a thinker! (and then, that fabulous accent!!) Reply L C says: April 20, 2019 at 9:42 pm Free room and dinner for any and all of you – please please come to (US) Cambridge! Such inspiring thinkers, every one of you, bravo!!! Reply Elizabeth Blackwell says: April 21, 2019 at 4:18 am Right there is why nerds are hot. Reply NK R says: April 24, 2019 at 5:26 pm @ the 1:16:10 mark… get a CCL and a lot of your concern will dissipate. If your state makes that burdensome, find a new state. An armed society is a polite society. 🙂 Reply VaSavoir2007 says: April 26, 2019 at 4:55 pm Sokal wrote the hoax article, but Sokal and Bricmont then published a book, in French in 1997, and in English in 1998. There was later a second edition which is what one should read now. Reply guinness4life says: April 28, 2019 at 4:36 am IRB's are totally politically motivated horseshit. I remember getting approval for something years ago for some likert surveys. Just getting approval took months while they try to drag their heels to prevent me from doing anything (they didn't want sexuality research for reasons that still elude me, they'd done something similar for a play that was sexual in nature). One subject allegedly complained (it was on sexuality, but optional, crossword puzzle on the back so no one would be offended) though I never received any proof of this complaint and they were going to revoke my approval (after approving it, in writing). I had already finished the research and they threatened to expel me and warned of some kind of hearing or something for my grievous misconduct. I laughed at the crazy lady telling me this. I had already graduated with my Master's. And that's when I decided I was never going back to a university for further education. They use IRB's to stifle thought, not protect subjects. Reply N L says: May 4, 2019 at 1:44 am The social justice religion is rooted in the idea of power dynamics, which means it is ultimately rooted in war. There's no articulation in the social justice epistemology of universal love, self-reflection or compromise. Reply Bruiser 64 says: May 4, 2019 at 11:54 am I have watched a few of Dr Peterson’s videos and he appears to me to be thoroughly decent man with a great deal of common sense and compassion. The experiences he describes in relation to academia indicates to me it is full of quite useless oxygen thieves. The preponderance of opaque academic jargon appears to be an attempt to prove to your peers how clever you are. The fact that jargon laden hoax papers were actually published is hilarious. Clearly the university is pissed off because they have been exposed. If you aren’t committed to evidence based study and research what earthly use are you to the rest of society? Decisions made on false premises can only ever be flawed. Reply Anna Jany says: May 5, 2019 at 8:58 pm These universities on the west coast do need to be called out. Just the lack of integrity with these professors makes the process earning a degree a complete rip off and scam! I can vouch…have a BA from a csu. The dog peer review journal is basically what is presented in the humanities department 😂 and the csu I went to would actually require for it to be taken seriously. And true story I almost wrote a paper on rape sloth but when I presented the idea to the class of course one female reacted with offense. Its bad you guys! Reply Stephen Jones says: May 7, 2019 at 4:08 am Thanks Doc. please stay with the writers. Great 👍🏼 job Reply Quigon Paj says: May 10, 2019 at 7:25 pm "I don't want to talk to you, I want to hurt you." I know that's disconcerting, and it's unacceptable. But it's also the sort of thing that makes it insufferable to hear the left cry about violence. It's not barbaric or juvenile to rise to the level of threat by someone who confronts you in a bar like that. ANTIFA and leftist punks are, by and large, pussified pussies. I'm not a particularly tough dude, but I've found it remarkably easy to get these types to cower when you accept their invitation to escalate the conflict. I hate the fact that, as a lifelong liberal, at 44 years old, I hate the left more than the right. Reply mildpigeon says: May 18, 2019 at 7:31 pm The question Jordan poses near the end “why should anyone care?” James Damore. Reply JoieDeVivre says: May 18, 2019 at 10:56 pm Indoctrination by academia…pure and simple. We are seeing the results of this in growing SJWs and prevailing PC culture today. Reply Jonathan Dunn says: May 27, 2019 at 6:15 pm Really valuable conversation. Unbelievable that it has come to this current state of affairs. My utmost respect to Boghossian, Lindsay and Pluckrose for their courage and effort. Reply David Welty says: May 28, 2019 at 5:49 pm Postmodernism is the biggest threat to Western Civilization. Reply ChristianBolt says: May 28, 2019 at 10:24 pm The fact that these guys still laugh so deeply after the blowback shows how awesome they are. Reply Michael Weber says: May 30, 2019 at 7:07 am I love Dr. Peterson but I wish he wouldn't interrupt so quickly , it makes me think that he may not be listening too well . Reply Michael Weber says: May 30, 2019 at 7:13 am These three are indeed heroes for western culture , thank you Peter , Helen , James… Reply gabebabe1 says: May 30, 2019 at 3:59 pm May I suggest you write a book about this with the 20 papers you wrote – it would be a best seller and you won't have to worry about jobs.Please! I'll buy one – start a GoFundMe now with a description – I reckon you'll sell 1 mil plus copies Reply Strom Clark says: May 30, 2019 at 7:34 pm I'm not even half way through, and this is already super interesting. Totally new take on postmodernism as a religion Reply Chuck Jett says: June 2, 2019 at 1:56 am Yes it is a religion and there is a dogma. Reply Random WhittyName says: June 2, 2019 at 5:20 pm Big fan Mr. Peterson, but please let your guests speak with less interruptions? Seriously, this was a good conversation, and totally understandable your passionate about the topic, but this felt almost like an inquisition to the hoaxers by you, which is a bit 'Kathy Newman'ish of ya. Not because your setting them up incorrectly. But because as they try to explain it you interrupt and lead the guest down an alleyway they have to either agree or defend an interruption barrage. Again, I'm a fan. I've been suggesting your work for years. I still will, the goal is to important. But this was not handled well, at least imo. Keep up the good fight though. Reply cinemar says: June 5, 2019 at 10:43 am Basically these reviewers have been shown to be a bunch of hacks and they need to cover their arses to save face. Reply cinemar says: June 5, 2019 at 10:55 am These guys need to go on Bill Maher with this. Reply Harry White says: June 5, 2019 at 5:10 pm The reviewers of the papers got caught with their pants down and shown not to be doing their job and they don't like it. Maybe the process is flawed and should be re-examined. Reply T J says: June 5, 2019 at 10:08 pm Peterson needs to talk less and let his guests speak. They are there to talk about their papers not Peterson's own personal definition of post-modernism and Marxism. He is a great speaker but a terrible interviewer. He did this same thing with Jonathan Haidt and other people he was supposed to be interviewing. Bogosian even has to play interviewer at times to try to keep Peterson out of it– without much success unfortunately. Reply Chip Howell says: June 6, 2019 at 3:05 pm Re: Helen Pluckrose' point about pulling together existing citations to weave a web: it reminds me that we're cautioned not to make dryer lint available to birds, who may incorporate it into their nests (it rains, the nest disintegrates, the eggs are lost). The editors apparently didn't recognize dryer lint–they read it uncritically, published it, and are embarrassed (if they have any brains at all). Rather than examine a flawed process, the IRB acts as though a crime has been committed. Reply President of the Secrete Sankcake Server says: June 7, 2019 at 1:36 am Peterson drinking game: -Rock paper scissors to take a shot every time you hear "postmodernism"-"Hierarchy" everyone takes a shot!-"marxist" person to your left takes a shot starting with first looser of the earlier rock paper scissors -"lobster" finish the bottle Reply President of the Secrete Sankcake Server says: June 7, 2019 at 2:07 am Exactly as a chem major we just called all liberal arts students, glorified future burger flipping man babys Reply Ludwig van El says: June 7, 2019 at 7:45 am I would apply the conclusions to all PC subjects, like also climate change. We can never trust science again. Thanks, scientists. Every subject can be politicized (that's inevitable with totalitarian regimes as every government anywhere in the world is. Apart from perhaps, Bhutan, Liechtenstein and Switzerland, and obviously Liberland) Reply TomJeffersonWasRight says: June 7, 2019 at 5:11 pm A sane discussion among truly educated people. What a delight, and how very unique on Youtube. Reply storminmormin14 says: June 7, 2019 at 5:36 pm They said in another video that the quick response of JBP and sam Harris and the others, saved them from insane backlash. Reply John Triplett says: June 8, 2019 at 11:10 pm I am from the deep mountains. I am stupid and inbred. Study me like an insect. Here is the problem with all human thinking. The truth is far too complicated to easilly define. If you try to simplify- stereotype- generalize then you immediately murder the fucking truth. Reply Alexander Jacob says: June 12, 2019 at 12:23 am The United States government, the universities and the kangaroo courts are starting to resemble those of various African nations very nicely. The level of devastation they're bringing on us is actually quite impressive I must say. Reply The Fabricated Man says: June 12, 2019 at 1:02 pm What's your net worth now? At least get a Blue Yeti, JP. Just go to Best Buy. Or the Canadian equivalent. Reply The Fabricated Man says: June 12, 2019 at 1:17 pm Nothing short of a stroke of genius. To shine such a inextinguishable light on how little academics plays in Social Justice. The backlash shows how desperate they really are for an ounce of legitimacy in any claim they make. The more they fund studies the more they get evidence against their claims. The man that started Gender Studies made a brother simulate sex acts with his castrated brother who was told he was a female from birth. It caused both of them to kill themselves later on in life. He figured out he was a guy during puberty and in an interview he said "You are born either male or female, you will know, i am living proof, what do I have to do? Blow my brains out?" He later blew his brains out. Even if born in the wrong body, you are either male or female. Hopefully treatment comes up that isn't making yourself infertile for life after pumping you full of hormones. Because the suicide rate doesn't drop and it needs to stop. Reply phrie RADICAL says: June 12, 2019 at 5:38 pm Pioneers they are. Unrepentant shit stirrer here also! Reply j says: June 13, 2019 at 12:17 am Tragedies make themselves known — blessings must be discovered. Reply Carlos Campos says: June 13, 2019 at 11:02 am This is hilarious on the one hand, on the other hand it is a sad reflection of the current state of “scientific” journalism. Reply PRS Rocker says: June 15, 2019 at 5:42 am To hear the bullying stories and the tales of people shunning in the halls, I can’t help but think of grade school bullies who also saw nothing wrong with their actions and were lauded by their sycophants as well as those who feared the bullies. This is advanced academia? Go to college online, kids. Reply Roger Furer says: June 15, 2019 at 2:47 pm Kings and queens and royal courts used to have a jester to point out absurdities. The jesters are needed now, more than ever. Reply Aparicio Caicedo says: June 16, 2019 at 8:57 pm This a great conversation guys. It should be seen by the students of these grievance studies for they to know what they are really being taught. Reply Strinden Doar says: June 18, 2019 at 3:16 pm Thank you for having these discussions publicly. Reply lessevdoolbretsim says: June 21, 2019 at 4:43 am Go armed….always be armed. Reply Alfredo Montealegre says: June 23, 2019 at 7:22 pm These so-called "Grievance Studies" come from the politics of resentment. It is where Neo Marxist ideology and Post Modernist Mumble-Jumble-Hocus-Pocus intersect. Total Bunkum. Reply Jaycephus says: June 24, 2019 at 2:51 pm So, how much longer before flat-earthers gain academic standing? Reply Jaycephus says: June 24, 2019 at 5:25 pm It's no longer Social Justice. It's "Social Revenge" Reply dploi says: June 25, 2019 at 12:24 pm wow Reply Zach501st says: June 25, 2019 at 7:30 pm I’ve never heard this much boomer mix in my life. Great substance and I enjoyed the vid, but pls fix mics Reply HermitTheFrog says: June 25, 2019 at 8:50 pm I wish they would take on "Climate Science"… whoo-boy!!! Reply HermitTheFrog says: June 25, 2019 at 9:00 pm George Carlin : Comedian, Philosopher, Linguist"Political Correctness is America’s newest form of intolerance and it is especially pernicious because it comes disguised as tolerance. It presents itself as fairness yet attempts to restrict and control peoples’ language with strict codes and rigid rules. – Political Correctness is fascism pretending to be Manners. ” Reply HermitTheFrog says: June 25, 2019 at 9:52 pm 1:18:28 – BINGO! Reply Sunjammr says: June 26, 2019 at 5:20 am Isn't it obvious that the counter claim should have been that the paper was entirely satirical in nature and therefore conferred no actual ' false data' but authentic 'fictitious meta data'. Reply Muddy Witch says: June 26, 2019 at 9:32 am The university/intellectual equivalent of Tommy Robinson! Reply OG Nova says: June 26, 2019 at 6:40 pm Did anyone else see this video and get a minor philosophical hard-on? Reply Dead Pool says: June 26, 2019 at 8:04 pm Liberalism is a mental disorder. Reply ondine hd says: June 26, 2019 at 10:09 pm You mean, the people in this video are not complaining?? "A rose is a rose is a rose….." Reply Marc Giancola says: June 28, 2019 at 1:15 pm Grievance studies I've never even heard of this shit before what a bunch of f**** baby's this world has turned into what a bunch of spoiled rotten Cunts this world is filled with nowadays Reply Marc Giancola says: June 28, 2019 at 1:26 pm If you're a straight white male get your s*** together start working out arm yourselves don't take any s*** from anybody or else flatten them out Reply One Race Through Adam says: July 1, 2019 at 12:10 am University students are the true human experimentation victims in this story. The focus of IRB boards should be professors who are laying waste to the minds of our children. It's an outrage that kids are suffering this level of abuse. Reply joe Vasquez says: July 1, 2019 at 2:18 pm Hero’s medal for these scholars 👩🏫 Reply Douglas Sirk says: July 12, 2019 at 12:48 pm Dr. Lindsay makes me proud to be a mathematician. As an insider I can tell you that mathematics will be the last refuge of reason and logic in the university. Reply Daniel Taylor says: July 12, 2019 at 6:23 pm Fascinating! I saw the BBC documentary series, beginning with "Survival – Ep. 1: Full Episode | History of the World | BBC Documentary" and even though I think it’s a well-made series overall I thought it was slightly jarring because they seemed to have made a deliberate effort to replace generic or male pronouns for entirely female pronouns. e.g. when describing the inventors of needles or farming etc., they said 'she' or 'her' instead of perhaps a 'they' or 'he'. It seems like a mistake to deliberately choose a specific pronoun, when there is no way to confirm who those people were. The odd thing is that instead of going for accuracy and perhaps using a neutral pronoun the BBC seems to have made the decision to risk being deliberately wrong. I was thinking that perhaps they did it because in the past, perhaps, documentaries used male or neutral pronouns by default; but to replace one potential error with a new potential error rather than implement a more accurate neutral answer (when they don't have the identity of the person they're referring to) seems bizarre. Basically, it seems they may have decided to double down on either a type 1 or type 2 error. Perhaps this is another example of some kind of identity politics leaking into education? Reply falkenlaser says: July 22, 2019 at 5:10 am I bet James Lindsey could write some great screenplays for Aqua Teen Hunger Force. Reply Koala Nectar says: July 22, 2019 at 11:55 pm Jordan "something approximating" Peterson Reply lakewood steve says: July 28, 2019 at 1:18 am Ann Coulter wrote the book Godless; The Religion of the Left! Describing there sacraments of abortion, sex pervert's rights, Global warming, Free Stuff Rights, etc. etc. And death to any dissenters! Reply lakewood steve says: July 28, 2019 at 1:49 am Could you imagine writing a spoof piece on the RCC Catholic church in the 15th century ! As the good book says "Nothing new under the sun"! Reply lakewood steve says: July 28, 2019 at 2:14 am Could you imagine Jordan Peterson et al. organizing a "We're mad as hell and we ain't gunna take it anymore" theme and "Move On Portland's Lib university" protest march and camp out My Portland grandson who was threatened with graduation for "corrupting the youth" by not worshiping at the godless Lib's pro Gay anti gun alter would gladly attend ! Reply Laura Sida says: July 28, 2019 at 2:46 am Proverbs 26:4-5 To let a fool speak his nonsense without reproof encourages him to remain wise in his own eyes and possibly gives credibility to his folly in the eyes of others. Reply Kirk Claybrook says: August 1, 2019 at 5:05 am This man deserves a Nobel Prize Reply Lucas Uhl says: August 2, 2019 at 9:22 pm 14:30 "I stood for nothing, so I fell for everything" – Katy Perry (Roar) Reply wow wow wow says: August 5, 2019 at 6:00 am Humour the best way to bring the S J W down Reply wow wow wow says: August 5, 2019 at 6:02 am women always say men are like dogs we need to train them ! Reply wow wow wow says: August 5, 2019 at 6:07 am as Jordan said in his lectures there playing out the Cain and Abel myth , envy and revenge Reply OriginalLHB says: August 5, 2019 at 5:16 pm "When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing, they then become capable of believing in anything.” (G. K. Chesterton) Reply OriginalLHB says: August 5, 2019 at 6:30 pm The great geneticist Francis Crick once wrote of a very bad graduate student paper: "Not only is your argument not right, it is not even wrong." Reply GhostMillionairesTV says: August 7, 2019 at 10:04 pm Jordan has a very long neck. Reply Krista Owen says: August 14, 2019 at 7:32 am I couldn't catch the name, whose critique of Judith Butler did Dr. G mention? Reply Mina Milad says: August 21, 2019 at 11:00 am if we consider this articles were an experiment, so if you give true data it means the data you presented is not fake which mean this is cheating and you fabricated the experiment , but when you present fabricated data it means you did it right for the experiment! so what fabrications they are talking about here!you did great job Reply David Brown says: August 21, 2019 at 6:13 pm Of course the SJW shtick has all the elements of a religion… key: This movement was "EXTREMELY WELL FUNDED". A weaponized brain-virus spread by academia into the general culture. Not an accident. Our education system laid the foundation by replacing logic and independent thought (Trivium) with authority-based (Prussian) education. This weakened mental immune system is fertile ground to inject any ideology you choose. These goats are f-ing with you. Not trying to be a smarty pants here, but I was writing about this more than 20 years ago. It has now advanced to a fever boil. Great video here with some excellent hybrid vigor. They entered academia, and they did eat; only to realize the bright shinny apple tasted of poo and was full of worms. Reply David Brown says: August 21, 2019 at 6:23 pm Good one… Bret Weinstein: Academia is self-selecting for cowardice. Reply Fingolfin says: August 29, 2019 at 5:31 am Its like hearing a green txt story. Reply pilbender says: August 31, 2019 at 4:40 pm In a day and age when academia is on the decline, the value of a degree is on the decline, real world value of a degree is dubious to life success, there are still a few people who are metaphorically willing to be burned at the stake to preserve truth. The academic community would do well to revere people who are standing up against blind group think. Pointing out the absence of true scientific research should be applauded. Without proper scrutiny, the institutions devolve into government sanctioned indoctrination camps; we're funding public universities. Not questioning necessarily means we become useful idiots for the state or institution. These people are heroes and history will treat them as such. We've seen this pattern in the past. It's so sad to look in the mirror and accept that we are no better than our ancestors. Our institutions should be better than this and it remains to be seen if leadership sees that bigger picture. Reply Leave a Reply Cancel reply Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *Comment Name * Email * Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment.